Cookie No matter who is in charge over there it is an unwinable war. I hate to say this but lets get out now...and Yes there are somethings that should not be said. You don't bad mouth the boss...no matter who they are....
To me this is more important than either of these two men, one of the foundations of our system of government is that the military is subservient to civilian authority. When generals undermine the president they politicise the military and undermine our system of government. When we don't have civilian control over the military we get situations like Imperial Japan or 1980s Argentina. I'd rather not live an a "banana republic" thanks very much.
The correct name is Barrack Hussein Obama AKA Barry
It's President Barrack Hussein Obama. Even if you don't respect the person, you should at least show respect to the office.
It is interesting that some say it is hard to respect a general who shows no respect for the commander in chief. I think it is even harder to have respect for a commander in chief who ignores requests from a 4 star general for several months, and then reduces the number of troops requested by that 4 star general. I find it sad that Obama praises McChrystal for his long army career, and then "accepts" his resignation as if it is nothing. We are talking about a person who dedicated his life to the military, and we now we have lost his expertise. It is one thing if he had disobeyed orders, but that was not the case. As Obama stated, his "intemperate remarks could not be abided". Granted, he should not have said what he did, but he did apologize, and I feel Obama was told by his "staff" that to save face and look like a commander in chief he had to accept the resignation. I can only imagine the frustration of being in charge of our troops in Afghanistan, feel the need to ask for more troops, and have a commander in chief who thinks it is fine to take several months to mull the request over. If McChrystal had been arrogant and felt he did not need to apologize, it would have been different. Instead, we have lost a man with experience and wisdom way beyond what Obama has in this situation. A very sad day for the US.
no he was fired. he 'outted' a worthless commander n chief at the cost of loosing his career. look not at how he said it, look at what he said. BHO strategy in afganistan isnt working.
Hope and change in 2012!
The general was ignorant. no matter how worthless your commander n chief is you cannont badmouth him especially with a liberal reporter in the room. as someone who served under carter and clinton, it stinks to have a worthless and incapable leader like Obama. unfortunately this is who the american people put in charge of our national security. as a military person you keep you mouth shut and do your job the best you can under the conditions and pray they elect someone like Reagan in 2012. i think the general knew what he was doing and basically committed career suicide to get the msg out the Obama is useless. sometimes great warriors have to fall on their own swords and Gen Mc is a greatone. all we can do is HOPE for CHANGE in 2012. for all of those who elected BHO, great work- we got oil, afganistan, economy all in the toilet but hey he plays good golf!
You are so right! I'm sick of Obama. I would rather have had a republican take my freedoms than this democrat take my money. And I would have rather had an ignorant soccer mom as second in command with a "you betcha" and a "don'tcha know. I'm sure Palin would be on Wall St. right now with her sleeves rolled up with the economy pretty much fixed. I'm sure McCain would have found the quick, painless, and easy way to finish the war while leaving all areas happy and with a functioning democratic government. And I am also sure that with the raw awesomeness of those two in power there would never be a need to cry over spilled oil!
Correct me if I'm mistaken, but McChrystal's resignation was accepted by President Obama. He wasn't fired. He chose to handle this aspect of the situation with some dignity and resign, maybe we should try to behave with such dignity.
Those of you citing "freedom of speech" must have never served in the US Military...
(Sheridan Media, again with an inaccurate poll question?)
"The supremacy of the civil over the military authority I deem [one of] the essential principles of our Government, and consequently [one of] those which ought to shape its administration." --Thomas Jefferson: 1st Inaugural, 1801.
"Instead of subjecting the military to the civil power, [a tyrant will make] the civil subordinate to the military. But can [he] thus put down all law under his feet? Can he erect a power superior to that which erected himself? He [can do] it indeed by force, but let him remember that force cannot give right." --Thomas Jefferson: Rights of British America, 1774.(*) ME 1:209, Papers 1:134
"There are instruments so dangerous to the rights of the nation and which place them so totally at the mercy of their governors that those governors, whether legislative or executive, should be restrained from keeping such instruments on foot but in well-defined cases. Such an instrument is a standing army." --Thomas Jefferson to David Humphreys, 1789. ME 7:323
John from Wyo
The President had to fire General McChrystal. This wasn't the first time the General had 'loose lips' concerning his opinions of the war in Afghanistan. Lincoln fired McClellan and Truman fired MacArthur for somewhat similar reasons. The President is the Commander in Chief. The most severe consequence for McChrystal could have been a court martial, but that was unnecessary, given the fact he lost his command.
The General has a Constitutional right, as do we all, of freedom of speech...this includes speaking against the "Great" Barak "Osama"......he spoke his mind and in that he did nothing wrong. The fact that he was removed from service simply for speaking what he believes, speaks volumes to what "Osama" is trying to achieve while in office...especially by replacing the General with another of his "yes" men.
J. S. Luckjohn
I find it completely inappropriate and ignorant to use the name Osama in the manner you have. Having known someone who perished in the 9/11 attacks, your remarks are highly disrespectful and offensive to anyone effected by 9/11 or fighting for our country right now!
Regarding the dismissal or General McChrystal, I agree with the President's decision. It's hard to have faith in your General to follow and respect your orders and mission if they publicly disrespect authority. Having been involved with the military for as long as he did, he should have known better.
Of course he has the right to his opinion, but his opinion did not have to be aired out in Rolling Stone magazine.
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sorry Steve I'll watch my temper next time
No the general does not have freedom of speech, any more than a private would to bad mouth his commander in public. The military is here to protect democracy not practice it. Regardless of his firing being a good idea when you serve in the military you forfeit some of your rights during the time that you serve.
I agree, once you sign on with the American war machine the way you express your free speech right changes to some extent..