Speedy Preliminary Hearings Delayed For Murder Suspects

All three defendants in the Ernst murder case have waived their right to a speedy preliminary hearing in Sheridan County Circuit Court. 19-year-old Dennis Poitra, Jr. and 15-year-old Dharminder Vir Sen had been scheduled to appear in court on Friday afternoon. 16-year-old Wyatt Bear Cloud had previously waived that right.

All three are charged with 1st Degree Murder and Conspiracy to commit Aggravated Burglary after a home invasion left 79-year-old Robert Ernst dead on August 26th.

If convicted, the three will face life in prison. Due to the age of the defendants the death penalty is not an option for the two youngest. Sheridan County Attorney Matt Redle has stated that he will not seek the death penalty in Poitra’s case either.

The defendants are currently in custody and Circuit Court Judge John Sampson previously set their bail at $200,000 cash, each.

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how would your feel?

EVERY SINGAL PERSON ON THIS COMMENT PAGE IS NOT ANY BETTER THEN THE KIDS THEMSELFS. Look at how all of you can sit here and thrash at these kids. WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF THEY WHERE YOUR KIDS? BECUASE NOBODY IN THIS WORLD IS AT ALL INNOCENT. Anybody could have done this but all you low lifes can think about is O MY GOD THEIR SO BAD!! when in reality their not. they made so very huge mistakes in their lifes this being the worst one but if you did something wrong would YOU want a second chance??? i think so but when other people do something nobody cares what happens well when you do something wrong in your life i hope that everysingal person on here gets the max punishment for it. no second chances nothing because if your to pathetic to give them one your not better then them might as well put the gun in your hands. if you have something to say about what my oppinoion is on this matter bring it to my face instead of over the internet.

Did Mr. Ernst get a second

Did Mr. Ernst get a second chance? Use some common sense, man.

LOL!!

It is actually an intersting photo if you really look at it. It looks like the Sheridan County arrested a Spock Impersonator. And these kids claim there is nothing to do. Must have been a Star Trek Convention in town.

-Wyoming Tactical Warrants Division

How very sad and pitiful.

How very sad and pitiful. Entertainment at others aren't you proud of yourself. Understand what you are doing before someone drops a house on you

I BELIEVE YOU MAY HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD HOLLOWAY. THE INDIVIDUAL COMMENTED ON THE STATUES IN WYOMING THAT FAIL TO PROTECT MINORS AND THE SADNESS OF THE WHOLE SITUATION AND SADNESS AND LOSS EACH INDIVIDUAL INVOLVED ARE EXPERIENCING. IF YOU WERE NOT IN ATTEN

LOL!!

Silly, pretty... they are a lovely color. Makes you wonder if he stole those too... in the dark.

I dunno'... sending a pretty

I dunno'... sending a pretty young boy to live for the rest of his life surrounded by predators every minute for ever might just be worse than a quick painless end, not my call to make and I'm glad of that. The thing is though, this kid will be somebody's wife within a week of hitting the main population, that's gotta be heavy on his mind about now. So, If you really want to get that dance going, send him to prison wearing those silly pants.

Protecter of White House Furniture

When they get out

All of these youth will eventually get out of prison and will be 1000 times worse then they are now. Yep, there are things worse then murder.

You didnt know we including your children, friends, family, are surrounded by predators everyday in Sheridan, Wyoming. Check it out on the Wyoming Sex Offender registry. They are on every block.

If this BearCloud is as strong and tuff and the rest of his family, I am sure he will be taking a wife or two of his own on the inside and then taking few when he gets out. I always thought those silly pant looked pretty cute.

I find it offensive that you

I find it offensive that you would be so outrageous when talking about Bear Cloud, yet vehemently defend Lane and act as if to question his behavior is unbelievable.

Will always defend the truth

You are correct, I will push the limits of the outrageous, I will vehemently defend Lane and any other person that is perceived to be falsely accused or attacked. I will do this until I am dead. Check out this quote:

Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope ... and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring those ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance. --Robert F. Kennedy

Live it, walk it, do it. Even if you happen to offend some people. One person who speaks says more then 10,000 who dont.

WEAK

Did you happen to read the post I was responding to? It is right above what I wrote. You dont find that offensive? Do you find it offensive that sexual preditors live right on the same street and go to your same church and eat at the same places you do?

I am sure BearClouds will be fine. Just as I am sure Lane will be fine. You and Lane must be really close, especially to say such negative things about him. Must know him quite well. If Lane or any of BearClouds need me to back them up, I will. What will you do, hide behind your computer screen and stand for nothing. Your knowledge of prison or jail must be profound. You offend me with ignorance. Pretty funny, HUH?

Sex offenders

So you are saying that sex offenders are worse then murders and chastising someone for their lack of understanding of prison/jail?

You might want to bone up on sex offenders and understand them a bit better. What about them do you find so dangerous? All of them are rapists and child molesters? Well yeah, some are. The majority of them are adults who had consensual sex with a 14 or 15 year old. While that behavior cannot be tolerated, I certainly wouldn't consider them to be more dangerous then a murder.

Just saying....

Rationalization

Is someone who rapes or molests a child or adult worse then a killer? Are they more dangerous? I would have to say yes. I am trying to think otherwise, but it just is not working for me. Wow

Don't misunderstand

Just to clarify, those adults who have consensual sex with juveniles are not more dangerous then murderers in my opinion.

Violent rapists or child molesters certainly are very dangerous. More dangerous then a murderer? It's arguable. I certainly cannot put myself in the shoes of someone who has been molested who has to live with that horrific event for the rest of their life. But I know that being the victim of that does not mean you are going to become a sex offender and it doesn't mean you cannot recover from it and live a normal life with a lot of support and help.

When you have been murdered, there isn't anything to recover from obviously.

Different Ways of thought

I have talked to a few people that have been raped and molested and they comment that they would have rather died or have been killed then live with the aftermath. I cannot put myself in thier shoes, but just to imagine,I might think the same way.

Sure

I don't doubt for a minute that some people feel that way. But I know for a fact that other people do not feel that way and are able to get past it.

Things Worse Then Death

I believe there are much greater sufferings then death or murder. Starvation, disease, mutilation (congo), war and the list does go on. I hope to live for a number of years without any of the above. Maybe people never get over rape or molestation and just make the choice to live with the pain. Dont know and hope to never know. You Know?

do you have cow dung between

do you have cow dung between your ears or what

I BELIEVE YOU MAY HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD HOLLOWAY. THE INDIVIDUAL COMMENTED ON THE STATUES IN WYOMING THAT FAIL TO PROTECT MINORS AND THE SADNESS OF THE WHOLE SITUATION AND SADNESS AND LOSS EACH INDIVIDUAL INVOLVED ARE EXPERIENCING. IF YOU WERE NOT IN ATTEN

Nice

Do you have something constructive to say or do you want to just hurl out juvenile insults for no reason?

Strange

What exactly is the insult? and who is it directed at? did I offend someone for stating my oppinion that sexual preditors are worse then murderers? Learn me.

Kathryn

Her post on cow dung....not you Damian

Thanks

Alot reading going, get overwhelmed sometimes. Thanks for the correction. Peace

wyo1234...do you have cow

wyo1234...do you have cow dung between your ears ? no need to answer..consensual between children and manipulative adults. Oh that's right if a child makes an adult choice that makes them an adult. There is nothing worse than an adult that steals a child's innocence ...under any circumstance

I BELIEVE YOU MAY HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD HOLLOWAY. THE INDIVIDUAL COMMENTED ON THE STATUES IN WYOMING THAT FAIL TO PROTECT MINORS AND THE SADNESS OF THE WHOLE SITUATION AND SADNESS AND LOSS EACH INDIVIDUAL INVOLVED ARE EXPERIENCING. IF YOU WERE NOT IN ATTEN

When they get out

All of these youth will eventually get out of prison and will be 1000 times worse then they are now. Yep, there are things worse then murder.

You didnt know we including your children, friends, family, are surrounded by predators everyday in Sheridan, Wyoming. Check it out on the Wyoming Sex Offender registry. They are on every block.

If this BearCloud is as strong and tuff and the rest of his family, I am sure he will be taking a wife or two of his own on the inside and then taking few when he gets out. I always thought those silly pant looked pretty cute.

Ulgliness and venom

Ugliness and venom was what was spewed when three people made the choice to kill an unarmed man in his bed. Never the less our society, being a forgiving one will spare the lives of these people even if they are found guilty.

You have no idea. It is

You have no idea. It is understandable the passion you feel for the situation just as I. I question society, the responsibility that we have as members of that society and the power that we have when it comes to influencing each others actions. Emotions should be kept in check when speaking in such a forum. All have the power to better or worsen society and situations.. We all have that responsibility. You have no idea

I BELIEVE YOU MAY HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD HOLLOWAY. THE INDIVIDUAL COMMENTED ON THE STATUES IN WYOMING THAT FAIL TO PROTECT MINORS AND THE SADNESS OF THE WHOLE SITUATION AND SADNESS AND LOSS EACH INDIVIDUAL INVOLVED ARE EXPERIENCING. IF YOU WERE NOT IN ATTEN

No matter

No matter, they are being charged as adults, and will doubtlessly spend many years in prison but because we are a civilised society (unlike these animals) will not be put to death.

There you go again with your

There you go again with your name calling. Just can't stay on the facts without spewing ugliness and venom.

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Ummm

Considering what these boys did, I thought calling them animals was very polite.

How will they be judged by a

How will they be judged by a jury of their peers? The Justice System will not allow 15,or 16 year old children sit on a jury. They would not be considered to be emotionally mature enough to decide the fate of ones life at such a young and immature age. So is that why the system charges them as adults so that adults can be seen as their peers. Adult crime adult punishment??? Wyatt and Dhar are still considered children for every other decision they have made in their lives. Just a question about the sensibility of our system.
From what I understand of the Erns't family, they may be in a moral tug of war of their own. Mr. Ernst sounds like he was a very spiritual and caring man. I could only assume that his family would be the same. It must be so very hard for them.

I BELIEVE YOU MAY HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD HOLLOWAY. THE INDIVIDUAL COMMENTED ON THE STATUES IN WYOMING THAT FAIL TO PROTECT MINORS AND THE SADNESS OF THE WHOLE SITUATION AND SADNESS AND LOSS EACH INDIVIDUAL INVOLVED ARE EXPERIENCING. IF YOU WERE NOT IN ATTEN

Molested

You think of that, however this is an entire different situation? no?

I will be thinking

I will be thinking that the next time a ten year old kills the adult person that has been molesting them since they were three years old. Adult crime Adult punishment. As I said earlier the law is pretty twisted. It would be alot better if the law was more like the old testament, but not so. I guess we can wish.

Adult crime

Adult crime adult punishment. Personally I think they should all be tried, and if found guilty turned over to the victims family, to do with as they see fit. Generally teens comitting murder are tried as adults.

Very true

But to be "turned over to the victims family"??? One wrong doesn't account for the family of the deceaced to be in the wrong. That's rediculous, I understand the outpour of people whom are outraged because it is a fit topic for that but try to be reasonable with the laws and reality.

~~Sheridan girl at heart but bound to the great state of Florida~~

~~Sheridan girl at heart but bound to the great state of Florida~~

why not

It's not the law, but why not? some drunk hits your wife's car and kills her, or some pervert touches your kid? maybe we should do it this way. Maybe if these boys were going to be turned over to the Ernst family when guilt was proven the next people contemplating the crime would think very long and hard about their actions before hand.

The law

Maybe the two minors should be tried as minors and the adult should be tried as an adult. But that just might make too much sense. I really do not understand the justice system, seems too much twisting of the actual law itself. Just a little bizzare to me. To be honest I would not torture or kill any of the defendents, I think they might be young enough to be rehabilited. Rehabilition does actually work for some people. I like to try and think in a way of solutions not questions. Repeat, try!

Yes but....

The fact that the 15 year old was the trigger man who initially murdered Mr. Ernst, and the 16 year old was the one who stole the weapon from the vehicle. Dennis wasn't anything but accessory to the crime What is for sure that he should be charged for is Breaking and Entering and Robbery.

~~Sheridan girl at heart but bound to the great state of Florida~~

~~Sheridan girl at heart but bound to the great state of Florida~~

Not exactly

Are you arguing that Dennis shouldn't be charged with 1st degree murder as an accessory?

BTW...this was a burglary, not a robbery and to commit a burglary, you are breaking and entering.

Actually...

I am curious as to why they are still calling everything as it is....

There are three general types that this case could fall under.

Burglary is the unlawful entry of a ‘structure’ to commit a felony or a theft. Burglary is commonly known as a "break in," or, "breaking and entering." A ‘structure’ is usually in reference to physical buildings but not cars. Remember, that burglary generally constitutes the victim is not present.

Robbery is the taking or attempting to take something of value from another person by use of force, threats or intimidation. It is committed in the presence of the victim. Robbery is commonly known as a "holdup" or a "stickup" (i.e. bank robbery or mugging).

Home Invasion is the burglary of a dwelling while the residents are at home.

Home Invasions in and itself is a felony. However, there is no real legal definition for Home invasion. It is often referred to as "aggrivated robbery".

In this case the suspects would naturally be charge for aggrivated robbery, 1st degree murder, and 2nd degree conspiracy to commit a crime. It usually is up to the prosecutor on which charges he is going to file in court based upon the evidence presented.

-Wyoming Tactical Warrants Division

-Wyoming Tactical Warrants Division

Robbery?

I think the boys intended to burgle a residence. That would explain why they were scared away from another residence where a dog was barking. I would assume they were trying to avoid a confrontation with anyone.

We don't know the exact circumstances of what happened at the Ernst residence. If the boys accidently woke up the Ernsts and the confrontation ensued, it was a burglary gone bad. If the boys were going to wake up the Ernsts to get them to hand over money, jewelry, or whatever then it turns into a robbery or home invasion I suppose. But ultimately, it's all semantics.

No I just was in a hurry to write it

He is an accessory to the murder there's no denying that. And yes I know I was mistaken about the burglary/robbery.. it's 12:43am here and I've had a looooong day. I was writing out what my point was just not entirely what was given.

~~Sheridan girl at heart but bound to the great state of Florida~~

~~Sheridan girl at heart but bound to the great state of Florida~~

Justice should be fair?

They are all be charged as adults, why not the death penalty for all of them? Why not torture then kill them? that would be justice.

The law

The law does not allow those under eighteen at the time of the crime, even when charged as adults, to receive the death penalty. If you feel strongly about this maybe the law needs to be changed, perhaps they could draw straws for it? After all a life for a life?

realistic

It would be pretty hard to argue death penalty for an accessory when you can't by law give it to the trigger man. Besides I don't think the county wants to spend the money. Death penalty cases are incredibly expensive.

No death penalty for 19 year old?

Why is the County Attorney not seeking the death penalty for Dennis Poitra, Jr? Punishment should fit the crime. As a tax payer I am offended we are asked to house and feed criminals in a fashion better than the poor in our communities ... The death penalty is a just punishment for 1st degree murder and should be used.

to cougah

dennis jr..did not pull the trigger if you knew him at all you would know he doesnt have the heart to kill someone.. i am so sick of you people saying he needs to be put to death..its my tax dollars going to it too, and money isnt anything to me!!!!its my brother you all are talking about but your words dont mean anything to us just keep talking cause honey the death penalty AINT GONNA HAPPEN!!!

jen

Heart?

How sweet... "he doesn't have the heart to kill someone"... but obviously has the heart to steal, or help steal a gun.. plan and break into people's homes... take what isn't his... what? He needed money, that he didn't earn by the way, more than those of us who work for a living? How very proud you must be, honey.

Enough of the death talk

The county attorney has stated he will not be seeking the death penalty, however I would think he is looking at twenty five years.