Cynthia Lummis Votes Against "Obama Care"

A media release issued by U.S. Representative Cynthia Lummis of Wyoming indicates that Lummis "stood with the overwhelming majority of American people Sunday night by voting against final passage of the Democrats' $1 trillion job-killing government takeover of the nation’s health care system."

Buried within the contents of the more than 2,000 page bill, H.R. 3590, is a new regime of government-run health insurance exchanges and one-size-fits all rules for insurance plans that would cause as many as 10 million Americans to lose their current coverage. The bill also increases national health spending and private insurance premiums, and creates trillions of dollars in new federal spending.

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I find it comical that

I find it comical that everyone was up in arms about a proposed rate hike for their utilities and went crying and screaming to the Public Service Commission to save them from the nasty corporation...
But when it's time to stop big business health care it's that BIG BAD GOVERNMENT stepping in, squashing our rights while stepping away from capitalism and turning socialist.

Funny!

This is funny cuz I didn't vote for Lummis!

What gives?

I'm not really for or against the bill, but what gives of all the things the federal government has done from TARP, to the patriot act, to spending social security broke why all the anger over this? even to the point that congressmen are being threatened (not that they shouln't have been tarrred and feathered long ago)

Lots of people are willing

Lots of people are willing to overlook such things when times are good (i.e. during economic prosperity). But now that the economy has tanked, the frustration is widening past the normal libertarian types that always resent over involvement of government upon personal liberty. The current administration is doomed to failure it if sticks with Statist policies without addressing the economy. Spending money in unprecedented amounts and driving up the debt while attacking capitalism is not a recipe for success.

I've been thinking exactly

I've been thinking exactly this same thing. The patriot act was a huge infringement on liberty for nothing more than the ILLUSION of safety. It probably did more direct damage to our personal freedom than this current health bill will. However, I do see potential for much more government interference pouring in through the door this bill has opened, and perhaps that is where the increased anger originates.

Maybe

Maybe so, The federal government has done everything in the world to make people angry the past few years no doubt about it. One thing I hate to see is the republican establishment trying to gain a political advantage in all this when their hands are just as dirty with the filth of big government as any democrats are. I'm mad too, don't get me wrong but I'm mad about things like the patriot act, endless debt for unpaid for wars, and the bipartisan raiding of the social security fund. I'm mad when three of our so called representatives from this county vote against our right to carry arms. I'm mad when I hear about government thugs harassing women and old people at the airports in this country. I'm mad when our idiot representatives want to make it a $75 offense to not wear a seat belt.I'm mad too but not just about a health bill, and not just at "Obama" which is all I hear from republicans.

Yep, spot on...

Yep, spot on...

Don't agree

I have to start by first apologizing for voting for a president because he promised hope for a change....sorry my Republican family.....I was disillusioned with the government because congress no longer listens to the people. Oops. I was wrong. I thought it would be better. Second, my husband, child and I pay over $700 a month in health insurance, with a $20,000 deductible. This rate will likely go up, because that it what insurance companies do....even if you don't use it. Third, when people who are on insurance and learn that they can take advantage of the system and go to a doctor for a sniffle, or to get out of something, much like many but not all Medicaid recipients, I wonder how high my rates will go up? I do feel bad that not all people can get or afford health care. But why do I have to work 50 hours each week to pay for mine, and now likely pay for even more people?

I do feel bad that there are poor people. Unfortunately when the government now mandates that we contribute, less people will give to organizations out of free will. There are so many grant and non-profit programs that will suffer when giving is ordered by the government. I choose to help and give....don't tell me I have to to something I don't agree with. I hope that Wyoming does partake in the law suit. I believe that we should help our neighbors, but not do it for them. Entitlement does not work. History tells us this. So, if you want to take a second job to pay for someone that can't get health care, even if it means you don't get to see your family as much because of work, go for it. Just don't tell me I have to!

Fiasco?

It's pretty early to be calling it a fiasco! Instead of fueling the fire and adding more hate and discontent to the situation, let's just wait and see what happens!!! The good that can come from this bill:

It makes insurance more affordable by providing the largest middle class tax cut for health care in history, reducing premium costs for tens of millions of families and small business owners who are priced out of coverage today. This helps 32 million Americans afford health care who do not get it today – and makes coverage more affordable for many more. Under the plan, 95% of Americans will be insured.

It sets up a new competitive health insurance market giving millions of Americans the same choices of insurance that members of Congress will have.

It brings greater accountability to health care by laying out commonsense rules of the road to keep premiums down and prevent insurance industry abuses and denial of care.

It will end discrimination against Americans with pre-existing conditions.

It puts our budget and economy on a more stable path by reducing the deficit by more than $100 billion over the next ten years – and more than $1 trillion over the second decade – by cutting government overspending and reining in waste, fraud and abuse.

Boy, that sounds terrible!
I'm certainly not saying I think it's perfect, but our system is broken and this is a start. The mark by which societies are measured is how they treats their least.

Keep a copy of your comment

I suggest to whomever wrote the above posting that they made a copy of their comment and look at it every six months for the next ten years to see what, if any of it comes true.

I disagree that taxes will be reduced, premium costs will go down, more people will become insured, and that anyone will be given the options available to congress.

I believe the Health Care Bill is nothing more than the product of the single largest idealistic vision of the Democratic party. It's been their socialistic chimera for nearly sixty years. I also feel it will prove to be the economic anchor of what is today the best Health Care system on the planet. Unless of course you support having the few pay for services of the many.

First, how can you disagree

First, how can you disagree with something that is hypothetical? You could "doubt" outcomes, but if it hasn't happened yet you can't quite disagree with it!
Did you know that our DEMOCRATIC friend, England, has had single-payer, universal health care for all citizens since 1948?! Maybe if small-minded greedy pigs had not been allowed to corrupt our elected officials with their lobbying our country would have truly been the greatest and pioneered such a cause! (Not to mention that almost every other industrialized country in the world takes better medical care of it's citizens. Research it.)
And, guess what...! Assuming you pay your taxes, you've been paying for these services for other people for years!!! Ever heard of Social Security and Medicaid?! Boy, that "social security" sure sounds like some "SOCIALIST" plot!
Maybe you're right... maybe we should tell our elderly, disabled and ill that they need to get it together and provide for themselves. After all, those tired, poor, huddled masses shouldn't find solace or respite on someone else's dime!!! Not in our back yard!
Or maybe you're dead wrong and should open up a little and realize that the more selfish were are towards other people the worse off our society becomes. It's time to start taking care of one another and show some patriotic pride in reclaiming the reputation the US used to hold. It's time to start witnessing what can happen if all of us are truly given the freedom promised to us by our founding fathers and live up to our potential.

What this person wrote is

What this person wrote is typical bantering, They need this process of government healthcare down the road a little because they know that people are too lazy to turn it around.. This will be higher taxes; this will raise the cost of goods. You tax the rich and then expect them not to pass it on in the goods they produce? Are you kidding me, yes there will be more people who are covered, but will it matter when the quality of care is reduced? I get a kick out of people who try to preach this healthcare bill as being a good thing. The fact that it went against the majority of the American peoples wished should tell you it was never passed in our best interest. This was passed to please some group on K Street....

Bias?

You don't think that it might be worth balancing your reporting? I have to think that within such a voluminous tome (2000+pages) there might be some good news worth reporting. Let's all just give this a shot: try not to be such a voracious pack of red-necks and see what happens?! It could do us some good, you know. But, I guess when you take the long view of things it's not quite as titillating as sensationalizing everything and jumping on the haywagon to the next lynching.

Balance?

Just thought I'd respond to you. I have found some extra time on my hands recently and have read the bill. I would challenge you to do the same before criticizing the bill's coverage. There is very little if anything good to come from this bill and if you think the reporting is biased, maybe you could offer suggestions for what is good about it for us here in Wyoming or anyone. The only thing that I can find that the bill accomplishes is to pass legislation that sounds good to those who have been begging for health care reform. I doubt very seriously if many (or any) of those supporters (who are not in Congress) have actually read the bill. In addition, I have not seen as many earmarks that will cost us (the American people) more in taxes in a very long time. This coming from a majority party that promised to reduce or eliminate earmarks in Congressional actions. Please enlighten us poor "rednecks" with the good parts of this legislation. I would love to find something positive to come from this fiasco.

Opinions are not News

Mr. Layher, I invite you to visit the website of The Society of Professional Journalists and read over their Code of Ethics. In addition to “providing a fair and comprehensive account of events and issues”, the SPJ exhorts “journalists from all media and specialties [to] strive to serve the public with thoroughness and honesty.” It specifically charges journalists with the duty of distinguishing “between advocacy and news reporting. Analysis and commentary should be labeled and not misrepresent fact or context.”

When I first read the second paragraph of the above story, I thought, “Uh-oh, someone forgot to include quotation marks.” It reads like an analysis that came straight from Ms. Lummis’s office. The allegations and prophecies made in the second paragraph are conjecture – and baseless conjecture, at that. No factual evidence is submitted to back-up those claims, nor is any substantive information from the bill included! The above story is not news but opinion and should be labeled as such.

where do you get your news??

Independent analysis of this health care bill shows much of Lummis says.

You critize Mr. Layher and seem to overlook Chris "Tingle in my Legs" Matthews or Dan "National Guard" Rather. Matthews was expressing an opinion and Rather obviously was not very thorough in his fact checks. I could go on to Jason Blair and others, but that would hijack this discussion that should go to the forum pages.

Layher was not writing the story, but had made a comment based on what he knew about the bill.

The bill will directly

The bill will directly impact my family in a good way, insurance companies may no longer deny coverage based on pre existing conditions, and may no longer drop you if you get sick. Lifetime benefits caps and yearly benefit caps are also done away with too. I'm not saying I even support the bill, but republicans had 8 years in office to pass some republican leaning legislation concerning health care and failed to do so. Republicans ran this country so poorly that we now have a democrat president and congress.... If you want to thank anyone for the health care bill thank George W Bush and Richard Cheney because if they hadn't done such a dismal job at running this country Obama would be a name unknown to most Americans.

Yaaaaa, they can't turn you

Yaaaaa, they can't turn you down or later opt you out..... Here is what they are going to do, they are going to PRICE you out..... Watch and learn...... Don’t cry to the rest when they put liens on everything you own.... Don’t think for once second they don't have a board room of highly educated people finding loop holes to stick it to, GUESS WHO..

The problem, dildo1973, is

The problem, dildo1973, is that for Americans suffering in the current greedy state of healthcare, people are already seeing the liens, loopholes and BANKRUPTCIES. 50% of all American bankruptcies filed are MEDICAL. They have spent the past 40 years trying to "price us out" and milk us for everything we have. Think: HMO! This bill may not be perfect, but it's a start. Let's hope that nothing should happen to you or your family under the current system that will bankrupt your entire family because someone was unfortunate enough to fall ill. And let's be glad that society is hopefully making a shift towards compassion and that if you or a loved one does meet with severe medical problems there will be a safety net so that you don't have to lose everything you've worked to earn for your entire life.

So it was in some way better

So it was in some way better to pay for insurance, then be dropped when you get sick? Republicans had 8 years in power to have reform of the system, and consistently refused to remedy the worst abuses of the insurance industry or even do things like allowing people to import drugs from Canada....No sympathy here for republicans or the insurance industry. Is "Obamacare" the answer? I doubt it, but you can thank the republicans for getting us here with their form of big government.

I think the 8 years of

I think the 8 years of Republican power were spent dealing with the fact that our country was attacked in an act of war, which is exactly where the focus should be - not ramming through unpopular bills while turning our backs in false utopia elation to the fact that others in the world are still trying to harm our country. Health Care reform will fail even worse if we endure another attack and the economy further tanks.

For having had eight years

For having had eight years to do it if republicans priority was national security they failed miserably, Having been unable to find one terrorist holed up in a cave. I'm glad we weren't facing Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan those eight years.

hmmm

So facing a civil upheaval within our own country is more preferred? That's all this bill and Obamacare is going to cause...neighbor against neighbor over political differences. So now we have the start of the civilians against the government in violent protest (the Revolution) as well as neighbor vs neighbor and maybe possibly fights within families over politics (Civil unrest) Yep, history does indeed repeat itself...just how long do ppl think that the "civilian" officials are going to be able to hold off and control all this political unrest before the big guns are going to have to be brought in to control it and then, gee, that would indeed be the beginning of Marshall Law....like no one saw this coming a mile away. What else would happen when a country, who only just over a decade enforced the "we don't deal with terrorists" suddenly gets the thumbs up approval of it's new political structure from someone like CUBA!

J. S. Luckjohn

I'd prefer neither, really

I'd prefer neither, really can't see that health care is any worse than the patriot act or real ID.....Same animal just different colors.

If I remember correctly,

If I remember correctly, once the "Bush Doctrine" took effect there was not another terrorist attack on a US target for the rest of Bush's presidency. I don't think the country had ever gone that long without some sort of attack prior to this.