by treed
Let 'er buck!!
I say open slaughter houses for horses in America and ship the meat worldwide. Horses can be humanely killed, just like cattle, without shipping them long distances first.
PETA, etc. have gotten this ridicous law passed because of the suffering by horses being hauled and slaughtered in countries where there are lax laws on how animals are killed. So move the slaughtering here (USA) where it can be regulated and jobs created.
Regarding horses being companions, they are livestock, and some are suffering a lot more because of this new law. Horses are being turned out to fend for themselves, their prices are so low you are almost giving a mare away. With the loss in value in the horse market, they are being seen more of a hinderance than anything of value. With cats & dogs (who are, by the way - companions) you have several animal shelters in every county for unwanted pets. They have a good system in place, unlike what is available for horses. A little fore thought would have been nice before the bill was passed in Washington.
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I raise and breed horses,
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 03/12/2010 - 16:45.
I raise and breed horses, and PETA and the HSUS are barely more than corporations using kind hearts to sop up the money from donors and the government like the AFLCIO and the AARP. Then brag about how 'good' they are. Less than 1% of millions of dollsrs go to ANY help for animals in the HSUS alone, whose staff consists mostly of attorneys and legal staffers.
Thay spent $24 million alone in 2009 for their bleeding heart ads ,when they do NOTHING to actually help the animals , just like PETA. Please check out these facts for yourself!
Horses are livestock, not pets. We use horses here in Montana and all over the USA on ranches, so they are not a backyard pet. We all dearly love and care for our horses and cattle and land, but, common sense in life says that if some animal or tool has outlived its usefullness to care for and does have value for food or use of hair hooves and various other parts, that is how the full circle of life must turn to keep things in perspective. It is far better and much more humane to send an animal to a slaughter house( in the USA where it is regulated!) than to let it fend for itself, starve, or gets beat up and chased from the food by the others until it starves to death, or the other animals abuse it.
Farmers and ranchers are only about 2% of our population here in the US, so most people that have not been around farming and ranching have a hard time understanding that not only do we work hard for little reward in monetary value, we as part of our stewardship, care deeply for the well-being of both our land and our animals in our care,and , since most of us try to make enough money from our animals to keep going whether it be cattle, sheep, chickens , or hogs for example, we must be on top of out efficacy in all practical ways. And with livestock, slaughter is one of those necessary venues to complete the cycle of efficiancy and stewardship. We make our living using and breeding and selling our livestock,so we MUST care for them. To conclude, no new laws are needed, just removal of all the recent barring of practices that have worked so well to keep our resources properly balanced for decades until those who took the balances away without caring or investigating the results to the economy and most of all to the animals themselves, sadly has compromised those who make their living with animals, and hurt their value, which impacts the animals and how they are treated since there is now no safety valve.
horses
Submitted by daughter wants a horse (not verified) on Thu, 02/25/2010 - 19:16.
If someone has a gentle, rideable, small Paint that they want to get rid of, we would be willing to take her (seeing that people say you can't even "give" them away, lol. We will be looking for one meeting these requirements, for our daughter, in the next year. She wants a horse to use in 4H. It would be the most loved on horse along the Big Horn range!
I spent awhile in near the
Submitted by ABS (not verified) on Sat, 01/16/2010 - 16:20.
I spent awhile in near the black rock desert in nevada where there were many wild horses. I loved seeing them on my way to take the kids to school in the morning. Although because the horses were over populating the area buckaroos (cowboys) were brought in to capture the horses. They were then taken to different holding fasilities for .... what I don't know.
And although the buckaroos that came and stayed and cought the horses were very nice people just doing there jobs like anyone else I secretly detested what profession they had chose. Really I still don't like it but they made me realize what was happening to the land because of the horses. So I understood.
What I couldn't wrap my head around was the ranch that held the horses. As I would drive to Reno to do my shopping. There was a ranch that held hundreds of these horses caught in limbo. They were all cramed together in a big round corral. They barely had room to move. I asked one person what they did with them and was told that some would be auctioned off as rodeo horses others might get lucky enough to go to a rescue but being wild and the expence was too great. So unfortunatley these horses stood there waiting to die of natural causes. The horses truely looked miserable. That was when I realised that as inhumane as it is to kill them it was much more inhumane to let them stand there waiting to die in misery.
As for the wild horses with brands. I think they should identify the brand and bring the previous owners up on charges. From what I understand horses were never native to the area they were horses that were released by there owners and banded together. I know there is no way to identify the owners but I think all that could be should be prosecuted to the fullest extent.
This oppinion is based on what little knowledge I actually have on the subject. But I did see the horses with my own to eyes.
Chicken
Submitted by gollum on Tue, 08/18/2009 - 10:44.
does it taste like chicken? Deeelecious.
fact of the matter is horse
Submitted by Alaska18 on Sat, 08/15/2009 - 05:37.
fact of the matter is horse meat is a delicious protien source that doe eyed do-gooders unfairly prohibit from my family dining table
don't like horse meat? don't eat it.
but keep your emotional baggage out of my shopping list
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Cow vs. Horse
Submitted by treed on Thu, 07/23/2009 - 18:49.
So what's the difference between slaughtering a cow verses a horse? Or is little Johnny's 4-H steer next on your stupid list of LIVESTOCK to save?
Absolutely,legalize horse
Submitted by Try Me on Mon, 07/20/2009 - 01:42.
Absolutely,legalize horse slaughtering in america.It will do nothing but increase the value of horses.BLM horses were worth $100 as canners.Now a four year old saddle broke mare barely brings that much.
The american mustang is an inbred joke.The majority of BLM horses are nothing but feral horses running at large.There isn't but a hand full that exhibit spanish barb traits,most look like draft crosses because that's what they are.
Call it PETA or anything you like.It's still nothing but a hand full of Morons that get these type of laws in place and it's seldom based on any sound platform.
I agree.
Submitted by coledigger4 on Fri, 10/23/2009 - 18:14.
I have been around the so-called "wild horse herd" in the Red Desert North and West of Rawlins. Some of those "wild" horses had brands! There is absolutely nothing wrong with culling these herds and using the meat for something rather than support them using taxpayer dollars and then leaving the carcass to rot when they die.
Breeding programs - gelding programs
Submitted by Sassy on Sun, 07/19/2009 - 15:35.
Yes, I'm with you to a large extent (especially the human breeding program) but I guess what I should have said was a gelding program! Through history, there was plenty of grazing land for feral roaming four-leggeds, but because of the human concept of ownership the land base is diminished, so letting them roam may be desirable, but too many 'owners' are going to chase them out...and I don't believe that having animals born into an area of land which could sustain them if it weren't for human desires and ownership is the right thing to do either. Better to control numbers and cut down on feral suffering before it becomes an issue.
The US has not done that, and this is ANOTHER mess that needs to be taken care of. The horses SHOULDN'T need our help, but they do.
Incidentally, I think there should be the same kind of accommodative program for dogs, many of whom live miserable stray lives and who could surely use a little kindness and comfort
I myself have been to a
Submitted by dillio1973 on Sun, 07/19/2009 - 12:07.
I myself have been to a horse slaughter plant, and also don't agree with the process. However I do take issue with the so called "breeding programs", the term in itself is almost a laughable joke IMO . Horses roamed the plains long before we were here and did just fine. Horses still roam free in parts of Arizona and New Mexico. Sheridan is a stones throw from one of the nations largest nature reserves and an Indian reservation. I say if it is that big of an issue let them roam, and let nature take care of itself.. The horses don't need our help. If you want to chase after a breeding program, chase after a human breeding program. Now there is something that is out of control.
Spoken like a true American!
Submitted by Sassy on Sun, 07/19/2009 - 10:40.
Hell yeah! It's all about money and convenience.
The fact that people are irresponsible toward animals and allow their miserable habits to become accepted practise in animal care seemingly doesn't register with you at all!
Get this straight, it is not PETA that is pushing this through, it is people who have a better plan than is currently in place for both horses and humans. These are people who are deeply involved in horse care (as opposed to those who turn horses out into fields in all seasons, allow them to breed indescriminately and leave them to starve once they have created a bad situation by their own stupidity). So if you want to say you have an opinion, you might want to educate yourself a little first.
What is needed here is rational, humane thought and planning. There needs to be a breeding program in place, there needs to be a plan so horses do not become victims of dumb human action, or inaction. And for your information, these plans will create jobs, cut the misery and stop the inhumane treatment of horses.
By the way, did you ever go into a horse slaughter plant? It's awful easy to be glib about it UNTIL YOU DO.
